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Posted - 2014.03.07 09:41:00 -
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Regardless of what The Mittani did or is doing, I wouldn't want one with an ego of his size to speak for the community. There has to be a conflict of interest somewhere in there. |
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:06:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:I don't think mittens wants the CSM, and he probably influences Eve more without that burden. That said, if he wanted it, he would have cfc bloc votes among others. He would get the position if he wanted.
Didn't he say it before? That he is not interested in running for CSM? I don't think he need it, in any case. |
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:30:00 -
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admiral root wrote:The only reason they can be like that is because no-one else is prepared to put in the time and effort to take them down. It's entirely the fault of the players that don't like them that they're so unlikeable.
You seriously put ALL responsibility on everyone BUT goons? |
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:49:00 -
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I don't know what they do that is so bad, it's what they don't do. I don't think they are evil or something, but if you have such an influence on a game and it's community, wouldn't it be best to act accordingly?
From my point of view, they act a bit selfishly, as I read from their comments here and there. |
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:59:00 -
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They shouldn't have more responsibility, they should have just as much. And they should act as such. Which, in my opinion, many eve players are doing just the opposite of. You should take responsibility for what ever you do, and not say things like "it's not my problem if I'm bigger than you". |
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:19:00 -
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Just post a "Come at me bro" meme and be done with it then. |
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:41:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You know what I'm hearing from you?
Unwillingness do something about a thing you complain about. I'm not a Goon, nor do I expect I shall ever be, but I cannot ignore the combination of hypocrisy and cowardice in all you "Grr Goons" people.
You're anklebiters, plain and simple.
Not at all. I don't mind goons in game. I have respect for they did and are doing in game - all of their achievements. But the attitude as an in game corp, imho, have no place on the CSM. Which is the issue of this topic. |
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Posted - 2014.03.07 12:02:00 -
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Andski wrote:I, too, extrapolate my views on an entire group of people based on my experiences with a single member.
Than shows everyone what you are and lets stop throwing catch phrases around. Everyone is responsible for their own image. This needs to work both ways. If you cared about your (goons) image, you would do something about it.
Obviously, you don't care. |
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:27:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
And there's no need to care. No need to care about your opinion either. It's irrelevant. You might not even be glad you're *allowed* to *have* an opinion and just take it for granted that you can fling it around like a monkey throwing his crap at other monkeys he doesn't like.
Opinions are like assholes. |
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Posted - 2014.03.07 14:15:00 -
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Wow.
Everyone calm the frak down. I got this.
Poe's law dictates that one can't detect sarcasm on the internet without proper information.
Also, that story about trash talking is the ****. |
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Posted - 2014.03.08 09:06:00 -
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And when he came back, all of new eden shook in fear.
And the goons took up arms and administered punishment.
And the bears sat there in awe.
And the The Mittani promised to conquer nullsec.
And he did.
And they did.
And I need a scotch.
Now we can get serious.
This thread went waaaay off topic. Its supposed to be about mittani and CSM, not eve and goons. But I guess you can't have one without the other. Sad? Sad. |
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Posted - 2014.03.08 12:40:00 -
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Andski wrote:perhaps the direction they actually wish to take the game towards is the one they've been taking it towards this entire time, and you don't like it but you think that CCP's desires for the game are aligned with yours and that there's some external, dominating force that is telling them what to do with the game, when that is not the case
The way I see it, to an extent, is that by putting this level of power with the players, all concept of neutrality is lost. When you put players in seat of power, and these players are part of some of the biggest blocks in a game, someone must realise that objectivity is an issue here. And objectivity in eve is one of the biggest concerns with players.
Trust in this game is at it's most basic and non forgiving form. It only produces losers in this game. What CCP is saying with CSM, in my eyes, is that they are somewhat clueless about what they want the game to be.
Or
They power that the major players hold in this game is akin to someone holding a gun to their head. They are afraid to anger certain parties. Now, I don't really mind it. I'm not at a point where I am familiar with much of what the game has to offer me. I enjoy what I have now, and it's different enough to keep me here.
What I want to see, and it's why I am waiting eagerly to fanfest, is CCP in control on the out of game decisions. Keep players inside the game, not out of it. Somewhat.
Than again, the fact that eve is still here after 10 years, can show that the stance they take is the right one. You can't convince (nor should you have to) me or anyone else, that CSM is neutral. CCP should be the only gods in this game, yet you can't promise they are neutral as well. Its the curse of the game, and one aspect that is synonymous with it. Trust no one.
We should be able to trust CCP atleast. |
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Posted - 2014.03.08 13:08:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:what i'm saying is that if you want to suggest that csm is not neutral you need to present evidence
e: 'neutral' ofc being representative of the community
That is something I obviously can't do. But isn't that a part of reason why players don't want the mittani in CSM? I know only what I read of course, but if mistrust is a product of eve, then it should be relevant to all aspects of it. Inside and outside of the game. ie it could be a scam.
Jaxon Grylls I thought it was clique? |
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Posted - 2014.03.08 15:14:00 -
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Andski wrote:You're assuming that the CSM have any form of power. They do not.
Than why are you defending his right to be in CSM? If there is no point, why bother with something useless? |
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:15:00 -
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Andski wrote:[quote=Inari Visas]To "defend" his right to be in the CSM would mean that that right is somehow under attack. It's not. I'm merely stating facts: he was never barred from running for the CSM, and if he runs, he'd win.
Point taken. Should have stopped there though. |
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